Galare (House) - Revision history

Madamebadger at 01:27, 1 August 2022

2022-08-01T01:27:08Z

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	[[File:Galare All in one.png\|thumb\|right\|Galare Family Tree]]		[[File:Galare All in one.png\|thumb\|right\|Galare Family Tree]]
	The seven noble families of the Galare House are descended from [[Jerisa Galare \|Jerisa]], her male cousin Thorsen, and her niece [[~~Alari Jesa Galare~~ \|Alari]]. There are many intermarriages between these three already-related families, with the result that any two members of the Galare nobility are very likely to be related to each other, many of them in more than one way. <ref name="notes">There exist images of two pages of genealogical notes, which are possibly the ones that were posted on Patreon but are not currently visible there to mere mortals. One page is Jerisa's descendants; the other page has multiple sections, including Thorsen's and Alari's descendants. The all-in-one diagram is an attempt at consolidating all of the information from both pages onto one tree.</ref>		The seven noble families of the Galare House are descended from [[Jerisa Galare \|Jerisa]], her male cousin Thorsen, and her niece [[List of Eldritch Characters\|Alari]]. There are many intermarriages between these three already-related families, with the result that any two members of the Galare nobility are very likely to be related to each other, many of them in more than one way. <ref name="notes">There exist images of two pages of genealogical notes, which are possibly the ones that were posted on Patreon but are not currently visible there to mere mortals. One page is Jerisa's descendants; the other page has multiple sections, including Thorsen's and Alari's descendants. The all-in-one diagram is an attempt at consolidating all of the information from both pages onto one tree.</ref>

	(Remember that bit near the end of [[Fathers' Honor (Fiction) \|Fathers' Honor]] where [[Petaq]] points out that it may be awkward for Jahir's mother to marry his wife's father, and [[Armin Palland]] objects, "But they're not related, are they?" Um, they're both Galare, Armin, so yes, they are related. They are, in fact, first cousins: their mothers were sisters.)		(Remember that bit near the end of [[Fathers' Honor (Fiction) \|Fathers' Honor]] where [[Petaq]] points out that it may be awkward for Jahir's mother to marry his wife's father, and [[Armin Palland]] objects, "But they're not related, are they?" Um, they're both Galare, Armin, so yes, they are related. They are, in fact, first cousins: their mothers were sisters.)

Madamebadger at 01:11, 26 June 2022

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	(Remember that bit near the end of [[Fathers' Honor (Fiction) \|Fathers' Honor]] where [[Petaq]] points out that it may be awkward for Jahir's mother to marry his wife's father, and [[Armin Palland]] objects, "But they're not related, are they?" Um, they're both Galare, Armin, so yes, they are related. They are, in fact, first cousins: their mothers were sisters.)		(Remember that bit near the end of [[Fathers' Honor (Fiction) \|Fathers' Honor]] where [[Petaq]] points out that it may be awkward for Jahir's mother to marry his wife's father, and [[Armin Palland]] objects, "But they're not related, are they?" Um, they're both Galare, Armin, so yes, they are related. They are, in fact, first cousins: their mothers were sisters.)
	~~[[File:Galare unicorn.png\|thumb\|right\|Alternate Galare house seal]]~~
	===Families===		===Families===
	*[[Jesa (Eldritch Family) \| Jesa]] (Ruling family, Western)		*[[Jesa (Eldritch Family) \| Jesa]] (Ruling family, Western)
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	*[[Seni (Eldritch Family) \| Seni]]		*[[Seni (Eldritch Family) \| Seni]]

			[[File:Galare unicorn.png\|thumb\|right\|Alternate Galare house seal]]
	===Relationships===		===Relationships===
	The following is presented with the caveat that it assumes that the author's notes have been correctly interpreted (and with the hope that the author hasn't changed her mind on some of the details). But see also: [[Eldritch#Genealogies]].		The following is presented with the caveat that it assumes that the author's notes have been correctly interpreted (and with the hope that the author hasn't changed her mind on some of the details). But see also: [[Eldritch#Genealogies]].

Madamebadger at 01:11, 26 June 2022

2022-06-26T01:11:07Z

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	[[File:galare2.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Galare ~~House Seal~~]]		[[File:galare2.jpg\|thumb\|right\|Galare house seal]]
	==At a Glance==		==At a Glance==
	*'''Colors:''' dark blue and silver		*'''Colors:''' dark blue and silver
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	(Remember that bit near the end of [[Fathers' Honor (Fiction) \|Fathers' Honor]] where [[Petaq]] points out that it may be awkward for Jahir's mother to marry his wife's father, and [[Armin Palland]] objects, "But they're not related, are they?" Um, they're both Galare, Armin, so yes, they are related. They are, in fact, first cousins: their mothers were sisters.)		(Remember that bit near the end of [[Fathers' Honor (Fiction) \|Fathers' Honor]] where [[Petaq]] points out that it may be awkward for Jahir's mother to marry his wife's father, and [[Armin Palland]] objects, "But they're not related, are they?" Um, they're both Galare, Armin, so yes, they are related. They are, in fact, first cousins: their mothers were sisters.)
			[[File:Galare unicorn.png\|thumb\|right\|Alternate Galare house seal]]
	===Families===		===Families===
	*[[Jesa (Eldritch Family) \| Jesa]] (Ruling family, Western)		*[[Jesa (Eldritch Family) \| Jesa]] (Ruling family, Western)

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Relationships

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	===Relationships===		===Relationships===
	The following is presented with the caveat that it assumes that the author's notes have been correctly interpreted (and with the hope that the author hasn't changed her mind on some of the details).		The following is presented with the caveat that it assumes that the author's notes have been correctly interpreted (and with the hope that the author hasn't changed her mind on some of the details). But see also: [[Eldritch#Genealogies]].
	*Relationships between Liolesa and Sediryl:		*Relationships between Liolesa and Sediryl:
	**First cousins once removed (one way): Liolesa - her father Toltheniv - his brother Sharvenor - his son Haladir - his daughter Sediryl		**First cousins once removed (one way): Liolesa - her father Toltheniv - his brother Sharvenor - his son Haladir - his daughter Sediryl

98.114.199.53: /* Relationships */ DNApainter-based conclusions (fun!)

2021-01-20T21:20:46Z

Relationships: DNApainter-based conclusions (fun!)

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	**Second cousins twice removed (another way): Liolesa - her mother Rylaniel - her mother Jerisa - her sibling - his/her daughter Alari - her daughter Kalavi - her son Haladir - his daughter Sediryl		**Second cousins twice removed (another way): Liolesa - her mother Rylaniel - her mother Jerisa - her sibling - his/her daughter Alari - her daughter Kalavi - her son Haladir - his daughter Sediryl
	**Second cousins thrice removed: Liolesa - her mother Rylaniel - her mother Jerisa - her sibling - his/her daughter Alari - her son Elesir - his son Besinir - his son Morikil - his daughter Thesali - her daughter Sediryl		**Second cousins thrice removed: Liolesa - her mother Rylaniel - her mother Jerisa - her sibling - his/her daughter Alari - her son Elesir - his son Besinir - his son Morikil - his daughter Thesali - her daughter Sediryl
			:''Based on their relative ages [adjusted for Eldritch lifespans], a DNA test would likely conclude that Liolesa is either Sediryl's great-grandmother or her great-aunt.''

	*Relationships between Liolesa and Bethsaida:		*Relationships between Liolesa and Bethsaida:
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	**Second cousins thrice removed (one way): Liolesa - her mother Rylaniel - her mother Jerisa - her sibling - his/her daughter Alari - her son Elesir - his son Besinir - his daughter Doriel - her daughter Bethsaida		**Second cousins thrice removed (one way): Liolesa - her mother Rylaniel - her mother Jerisa - her sibling - his/her daughter Alari - her son Elesir - his son Besinir - his daughter Doriel - her daughter Bethsaida
	**Second cousins thrice removed (another way): Liolesa - her mother Rylaniel - her mother Jerisa - her sibling - his/her daughter Alari - her son Elesir - his daughter Anariel - her son Shaliver - his daughter Bethsaida		**Second cousins thrice removed (another way): Liolesa - her mother Rylaniel - her mother Jerisa - her sibling - his/her daughter Alari - her son Elesir - his daughter Anariel - her son Shaliver - his daughter Bethsaida
			:''Based on their relative ages [adjusted for Eldritch lifespans], a DNA test would likely conclude that Liolesa is either Bethsaida's great-grandmother or her great-aunt. Notice that this is the same as the likely conclusion for Liolesa and Sediryl, although the predicted numbers are slightly lower.''

	*Relationships between Jahir and Sediryl:		*Relationships between Jahir and Sediryl:
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	**Second cousins twice removed: Jahir - his mother Jeasa - her mother Lashaniel - her brother Elesir - his son Besinir - his son Morikil - his daughter Thesali - her daughter Sediryl		**Second cousins twice removed: Jahir - his mother Jeasa - her mother Lashaniel - her brother Elesir - his son Besinir - his son Morikil - his daughter Thesali - her daughter Sediryl
	**Fourth cousins: Jahir - his mother Jeasa - her mother Lashaniel - her mother Alari - her parent - his/her parent - his/her sibling - his/her son Thorsen - his son Sharvenor - his son Haladir - his daughter Sediryl		**Fourth cousins: Jahir - his mother Jeasa - her mother Lashaniel - her mother Alari - her parent - his/her parent - his/her sibling - his/her son Thorsen - his son Sharvenor - his son Haladir - his daughter Sediryl
			:''Based on their relative ages, a DNA test would likely conclude that Jahir and Sediryl are half-siblings.''

	*Liliarana and Sediryl are double second cousins, and they are both Jerisa's great-great-great-granddaughters. Bethsaida is one generation closer to Jerisa: great-great-granddaughter.		*Liliarana and Sediryl are double second cousins, and they are both Jerisa's great-great-great-granddaughters. Bethsaida is one generation closer to Jerisa: great-great-granddaughter.

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Relationships

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	*Liolesa's first cousins on her father's side: Fassiana Delen, Kolvin and Thesali Nuera, Haladir Delen, Malavi Nase and her brother Deranthir, Filisin Catha and her sister Sorithinil.		*Liolesa's first cousins on her father's side: Fassiana Delen, Kolvin and Thesali Nuera, Haladir Delen, Malavi Nase and her brother Deranthir, Filisin Catha and her sister Sorithinil.
	*Liolesa's first cousins on her mother's side: Anariel and Besinir Jesa, Hirianthial Sarel Jisiensire and Baniel.		*Liolesa's first cousins on her mother's side: Anariel and Besinir Jesa, Hirianthial Sarel Jisiensire and Baniel.

			*Lisinthir, Juzie, Jahir & Amber, Sediryl, and Lili are all Liolesa's first cousins once removed, through her father. They're all also related to her on her mother's side, but those are more distant relationships.

			*Lisinthir, Juzie, Jahir, and Sediryl are all double second cousins to each other. Lili is double seconds with Sediryl, but second cousins "only" once with everyone else. They're all related in various other ways, of course.

	==Galare Eldritch==		==Galare Eldritch==

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People and Society

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 [[File:Galare All in one.png|thumb|right|Galare Family Tree]]
-The seven noble families of the Galare House are descended from [[Jerisa Galare |Jerisa]], her male cousin Thorsen, and her niece [[Alari Jesa Galare |Alari]]. There are many intermarriages between these three already-related families, with the result that any two members of the Galare nobility are very likely to be related to each other, many of them in more than one way.
+The seven noble families of the Galare House are descended from [[Jerisa Galare |Jerisa]], her male cousin Thorsen, and her niece [[Alari Jesa Galare |Alari]]. There are many intermarriages between these three already-related families, with the result that any two members of the Galare nobility are very likely to be related to each other, many of them in more than one way. <ref name="notes">There exist images of two pages of genealogical notes, which are possibly the ones that were posted on Patreon but are not currently visible there to mere mortals. One page is Jerisa's descendants; the other page has multiple sections, including Thorsen's and Alari's descendants. The all-in-one diagram is an attempt at consolidating all of the information from both pages onto one tree.</ref>
 (Remember that bit near the end of [[Fathers' Honor (Fiction) |Fathers' Honor]] where [[Petaq]] points out that it may be awkward for Jahir's mother to marry his wife's father, and [[Armin Palland]] objects, "But they're not related, are they?" Um, they're both Galare, Armin, so yes, they are related. They are, in fact, first cousins: their mothers were sisters.)
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 *[[Seni (Eldritch Family) | Seni]]
-===History===
+===Relationships===
 ==Galare Eldritch==

Julika14: /* Founders */

2021-01-15T00:42:02Z

Founders

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	[[File:Galare All in one.png\|thumb\|right\|Galare Family Tree]]		[[File:Galare All in one.png\|thumb\|right\|Galare Family Tree]]
			The seven noble families of the Galare House are descended from [[Jerisa Galare \|Jerisa]], her male cousin Thorsen, and her niece [[Alari Jesa Galare \|Alari]]. There are many intermarriages between these three already-related families, with the result that any two members of the Galare nobility are very likely to be related to each other, many of them in more than one way.

			(Remember that bit near the end of [[Fathers' Honor (Fiction) \|Fathers' Honor]] where [[Petaq]] points out that it may be awkward for Jahir's mother to marry his wife's father, and [[Armin Palland]] objects, "But they're not related, are they?" Um, they're both Galare, Armin, so yes, they are related. They are, in fact, first cousins: their mothers were sisters.)

	===Families===		===Families===

Julika14: revised family tree

2021-01-15T00:15:48Z

revised family tree

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	===Founders===		===Founders===

	[[File:~~GalareTree~~.png\|thumb\|right\|Galare Family Tree]]		[[File:Galare All in one.png\|thumb\|right\|Galare Family Tree]]

	===Families===		===Families===

Madamebadger at 02:46, 25 October 2020

2020-10-25T02:46:01Z

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	==People and Society==		==People and Society==
	===Founders===		===Founders===

			[[File:GalareTree.png\|thumb\|right\|Galare Family Tree]]

	===Families===		===Families===
	*[[Jesa (Eldritch Family) \| Jesa]] (Ruling family, Western)		*[[Jesa (Eldritch Family) \| Jesa]] (Ruling family, Western)